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九龍王子 | 9th May 2008 | 電影直播 | (291 Reads)


一 個名叫Geert Wilders的荷蘭人制作出 Fitna 這部短片.用伊斯蘭教可蘭經裡面的殺人經文襯上恐怖襲擊片段.証明恐怖主義並不是如一般人說的極端份子’騎劫’宗教,而是有教義經文作根據的.相信這位人 兄很快就會被人追殺了.但事實就是事實.難得有人提醒一下. 這確是一個暴力宗教.不認同的教徒都會示威 ’Behead those who say Islam is a violent religion'(誰說伊斯蘭教是暴力宗教?斬下他的人頭!)自打嘴巴.一個宗教只要有一句半句為神而戰的經文,都會是一個暴力宗教.這是很自然的事.只要教徒人數夠多,總會有人用得上這些經文.這只是一個簡單機會率問題.現 今科技發達.幾個人都可以殺幾千人了.這些人被名為極端份子.而溫和派教徒自認愛人如己,是不會認同極端份子的.有趣的是沒有溫和派將暴力經文一代一代傳 下去,又何來極端份子呢?所以這些溫和派的教徒只是極端派的一個掩護.這種宗教.有不如無.這是學者Sam Harris一直以來的論調.所指是猶太,基督,伊斯蘭這些一神宗教.

以下轉載 Sam Harris 一篇文章.說到網站,政府,書局都不願意同反伊斯蘭教資訊拉上關係.就是怕伊斯蘭教徒的報復行為.這其實是變相的打壓言論自由.連批評都不可以.護教的精神病患不是會變本加厲嗎?


Losing Our Spines to Save Our Necks -- Sam Harris

 

Geert Wilders, conservative Dutch politician and provocateur, has become the latest projectile in the world's most important culture war: the zero-sum conflict between civil society and traditional Islam. Wilders, who lives under perpetual armed guard due to death threats, recently released a 15 minute film entitled Fitna ("strife" in Arabic) over the internet. The film has been deemed offensive because it juxtaposes images of Muslim violence with passages from the Qur'an. Given that the perpetrators of such violence regularly cite these same passages as justification for their actions, merely depicting this connection in a film would seem uncontroversial. Controversial or not, one surely would expect politicians and journalists in every free society to strenuously defend Wilders' right to make such a film. But then one would be living on another planet, a planet where people do not happily repudiate their most basic freedoms in the name of "religious sensitivity."

Witness the free world's response to Fitna: The Dutch government sought to ban the film outright, and European Union foreign ministers publicly condemned it, as did UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon. Dutch television refused to air Fitna unedited. When Wilders declared his intention to release the film over the internet, his U.S. web-host, Network Solutions, took his website offline.

Into the breach stepped Liveleak, a British video-sharing website, which finally aired the film on March 27th. It received over 3 million views in the first 24 hours. The next day, however, Liveleak removed Fitna from its servers, having been terrorized into self-censorship by threats to its staff. But the film had spread too far on the internet to be suppressed (and Liveleak, after taking further security measures, has since reinstated it on its site as well).

Of course, there were immediate calls for a boycott of Dutch products throughout the Muslim world. In response, Dutch corporations placed ads in countries like Indonesia, denouncing the film in self-defense. Several Muslim countries blocked YouTube and other video-sharing sites in an effort to keep Wilders' blasphemy from penetrating the minds of their citizens. There have also been isolated protests and attacks on embassies, and ubiquitous demands for Wilders' murder. In Afghanistan, women in burqas could be seen burning the Dutch flag; the Taliban carried out at least two revenge attacks on Dutch troops, resulting in five Dutch casualties; and security concerns have caused the Netherlands to close its embassy in Kabul. It must be said, however, that nothing has yet occurred to rival the ferocious response to the Danish cartoons.

Meanwhile Kurt Westergaard, one of the Danish cartoonists, threatened to sue Wilders for copyright infringement, as Wilders used his drawing of a bomb-laden Muhammad without permission. Westergaard has lived in hiding since 2006 due to death threats of his own, so the Danish Union of Journalists volunteered to file this lawsuit on his behalf. Admittedly, there is something amusing about one hunted man, unable to venture out in public for fear of being killed by religious lunatics, threatening to sue another man in the same predicament over a copyright violation. But it is understandable that Westergaard wouldn't want to be repeatedly hurled at the enemy without his consent. Westergaard is an extraordinarily courageous man whose life has been ruined both by religious fanaticism and the free world's submission to it. In February, the Danish government arrested three Muslims who seemed poised to murder him. Other Danes unfortunate enough to have been born with the name "Kurt Westergaard" have had to take steps to escape being murdered in his place. (Wilder's has since removed the cartoon from the official version of Fitna.)

Wilders, like Westergaard and the other Danish cartoonists, has been widely vilified for "seeking to inflame" the Muslim community. Even if this had been his intention, this criticism represents an almost supernatural coincidence of moral blindness and political imprudence. The point is not (and will never be) that some free person spoke, or wrote, or illustrated in such a manner as to inflame the Muslim community. The point is that only the Muslim community is combustible in this way. The controversy over Fitna, like all such controversies, renders one fact about our world especially salient: Muslims appear to be far more concerned about perceived slights to their religion than about the atrocities committed daily in its name. Our accommodation of this psychopathic skewing of priorities has, more and more, taken the form of craven and blinkered acquiescence.

There is an uncanny irony here that many have noticed. The position of the Muslim community in the face of all provocations seems to be: Islam is a religion of peace, and if you say that it isn't, we will kill you. Of course, the truth is often more nuanced, but this is about as nuanced as it ever gets: Islam is a religion of peace, and if you say that it isn't, we peaceful Muslims cannot be held responsible for what our less peaceful brothers and sisters do. When they burn your embassies or kidnap and slaughter your journalists, know that we will hold you primarily responsible and will spend the bulk of our energies criticizing you for "racism" and "Islamophobia."

Our capitulations in the face of these threats have had what is often called "a chilling effect" on our exercise of free speech. I have, in my own small way, experienced this chill first hand. First, and most important, my friend and colleague Ayaan Hirsi Ali happens to be among the hunted. Because of the failure of Western governments to make it safe for people to speak openly about the problem of Islam, I and others must raise a mountain of private funds to help pay for her round-the-clock protection. The problem is not, as is often alleged, that governments cannot afford to protect every person who speaks out against Muslim intolerance. The problem is that so few people do speak out. If there were ten thousand Ayaan Hirsi Ali's, the risk to each would be radically reduced.

As for infringements of my own speech, my first book, The End of Faith, almost did not get published for fear of offending the sensibilities of (probably non-reading) religious fanatics. W.W. Norton, which did publish the book, was widely seen as taking a risk--one probably attenuated by the fact that I am an equal-opportunity offender critical of all religious faith. However, when it came time to make final edits to the galleys of The End of Faith, many of the people I had thanked by name in my acknowledgments (including my agent at the time and my editor at Norton) independently asked to have their names removed from the book. Their concerns were explicitly for their personal safety. Given our shamefully ineffectual response to the fatwa against Salman Rushdie, their concerns were perfectly understandable.

Nature, arguably the most influential scientific journal on the planet, recently published a lengthy whitewash of Islam (Z. Sardar "Beyond the troubled relationship." Nature 448, 131-133; 2007). The author began, as though atop a minaret, by simply declaring the religion of Islam to be "intrinsically rational." He then went on to argue, amid a highly idiosyncratic reading of history and theology, that this rational religion's current wallowing in the violent depths of unreason can be fully ascribed to the legacy of colonialism. After some negotiation, Nature also agreed to publish a brief response from me. What readers of my letter to the editor could not know, however, was that it was only published after perfectly factual sentences deemed offensive to Islam were expunged. I understood the editors' concerns at the time: not only did they have Britain's suffocating libel laws to worry about, but Muslim physicians and engineers in the UK had just revealed a penchant for suicide bombing. I was grateful that Nature published my letter at all.

In a thrillingly ironic turn of events, a shorter version of the very essay you are now reading was originally commissioned by the opinion page of Washington Post and then rejected because it was deemed too critical of Islam. Please note, this essay was destined for the opinion page of the paper, which had solicited my response to the controversy over Wilders' film. The irony of its rejection seemed entirely lost on the Post, which responded to my subsequent expression of amazement by offering to pay me a "kill fee." I declined.

I could list other examples of encounters with editors and publishers, as can many writers, all illustrating a single fact: While it remains taboo to criticize religious faith in general, it is considered especially unwise to criticize Islam. Only Muslims hound and hunt and murder their apostates, infidels, and critics in the 21st century. There are, to be sure, reasons why this is so. Some of these reasons have to do with accidents of history and geopolitics, but others can be directly traced to doctrines sanctifying violence which are unique to Islam.

A point of comparison: The controversy of over Fitna was immediately followed by ubiquitous media coverage of a scandal involving the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (FLDS). In Texas, police raided an FLDS compound and took hundreds of women and underage girls into custody to spare them the continued, sacramental predations of their menfolk. While mainstream Mormonism is now granted the deference accorded to all major religions in the United States, its fundamentalist branch, with its commitment to polygamy, spousal abuse, forced marriage, child brides (and, therefore, child rape) is often portrayed in the press as a depraved cult. But one could easily argue that Islam, considered both in the aggregate and in terms of its most negative instances, is far more despicable than fundamentalist Mormonism. The Muslim world can match the FLDS sin for sin--Muslims commonly practice polygamy, forced-marriage (often between underage girls and older men), and wife-beating--but add to these indiscretions the surpassing evils of honor killing, female "circumcision," widespread support for terrorism, a pornographic fascination with videos showing the butchery of infidels and apostates, a vibrant form of anti-semitism that is explicitly genocidal in its aspirations, and an aptitude for producing children's books and television programs which exalt suicide-bombing and depict Jews as "apes and pigs."

Any honest comparison between these two faiths reveals a bizarre double standard in our treatment of religion. We can openly celebrate the marginalization of FLDS men and the rescue of their women and children. But, leaving aside the practical and political impossibility of doing so, could we even allow ourselves to contemplate liberating the women and children of traditional Islam?

What about all the civil, freedom-loving, moderate Muslims who are just as appalled by Muslim intolerance as I am? No doubt millions of men and women fit this description, but vocal moderates are very difficult to find. Wherever "moderate Islam" does announce itself, one often discovers frank Islamism lurking just a euphemism or two beneath the surface. The subterfuge is rendered all but invisible to the general public by political correctness, wishful thinking, and "white guilt." This is where we find sinister people successfully posing as "moderates"--people like Tariq Ramadan who, while lionized by liberal Europeans as the epitome of cosmopolitan Islam, cannot bring himself to actually condemn honor killing in round terms (he recommends that the practice be suspended, pending further study). Moderation is also attributed to groups like the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), an Islamist public relations firm posing as a civil-rights lobby.

Even when one finds a true voice of Muslim moderation, it often seems distinguished by a lack of candor above all things. Take someone like Reza Aslan, author of No God But God: I debated Aslan for Book TV on the general subject of religion and modernity. During the course of our debate, I had a few unkind words to say about the Muslim Brotherhood. While admitting that there is a difference between the Brotherhood and a full-blown jihadist organization like al Qaeda, I said that their ideology was "close enough" to be of concern. Aslan responded with a grandiose, ad hominem attack saying, "that indicates the profound unsophistication that you have about this region. You could not be more wrong" and claiming that I'd taken my view of Islam from "Fox News." Such maneuvers, coming from a polished, Iranian-born scholar of Islam carry the weight of authority, especially in front of an audience of people who are desperate to believe the threat of Islam has been grossly exaggerated. The problem, however, is that the credo of the Muslim Brotherhood actually happens to be "Allah is our objective. The Prophet is our leader. The Qur'an is our law. Jihad is our way. Dying in the way of Allah is our highest hope."

The connection between the doctrine of Islam and Islamist violence is simply not open to dispute. It's not that critics of religion like myself speculate that such a connection might exist: the point is that Islamists themselves acknowledge and demonstrate this connection at every opportunity and to deny it is to retreat within a fantasy world of political correctness and religious apology. Many western scholars, like the much admired Karen Armstrong, appear to live in just such a place. All of their talk about how benign Islam "really" is, and about how the problem of fundamentalism exists in all religions, only obfuscates what may be the most pressing issue of our time: Islam, as it is currently understood and practiced by vast numbers of the world's Muslims, is antithetical to civil society. A recent poll showed that thirty-six percent of British Muslims (ages 16-24) believe that a person should be killed for leaving the faith. Sixty-eight percent of British Muslims feel that their neighbors who insult Islam should be arrested and prosecuted, and seventy-eight percent think that the Danish cartoonists should have been brought to justice. And these are British Muslims.

Occasionally, however, a lone voice can be heard acknowledging the obvious. Hassan Butt wrote in the Guardian:


When I was still a member of what is probably best termed the British Jihadi Network, a series of semi-autonomous British Muslim terrorist groups linked by a single ideology, I remember how we used to laugh in celebration whenever people on TV proclaimed that the sole cause for Islamic acts of terror like 9/11, the Madrid bombings and 7/7 was Western foreign policy. By blaming the government for our actions, those who pushed the 'Blair's bombs' line did our propaganda work for us. More important, they also helped to draw away any critical examination from the real engine of our violence: Islamic theology.

It is astounding how infrequently one hears such candor among the public voices of "moderate" Islam. This is what we owe the true moderates of the Muslim world: we must hold their co-religionists to the same standards of civility and reasonableness that we take for granted in all other people. Only our willingness to openly criticize Islam for its all-too-obvious failings can make it safe for Muslim moderates, secularists, apostates--and, indeed, women--to rise up and reform their faith.

And if anyone in this debate can be credibly accused of racism, it is the western apologists and "multiculturalists" who deem Arabs and Muslims too immature to shoulder the responsibilities of civil discourse. As Ayaan Hirsi Ali has pointed out, there is a calamitous form of "affirmative action" at work, especially in western Europe, where Muslim immigrants are systematically exempted from western standards of moral order in the name of paying "respect" to the glaring pathologies in their culture. Hirsi Ali has also observed that there is a quasi-racist double-think on display whenever western powers trumpet that "Islam is peace," all the while taking heroic measures to guard against the next occasion when the barbarians run amok in response to a film, cartoon, opera, novel, beauty pageant--or the mere naming of a teddy bear.

Have you seen the Danish cartoons that so roiled the Muslim world? Probably not, as their publication was suppressed by almost every newspaper, magazine, and television station in the United States. Given their volcanic reception--hundreds of thousands of Muslims rioted, hundreds of people were killed--their sheer banality should have rendered these drawings extraordinarily newsworthy. One magazine which did print them, Free Inquiry (for which I am proud to have written), had its stock banned from every Borders and Waldenbooks in the country. These are precisely the sorts of capitulations that we must avoid in the future.

The lesson we should draw from the Fitna controversy is that we need more criticism of Islam, not less. Let it come down in such torrents that not even the most deluded Islamist could conceive of containing it. As Ibn Warraq, author of the revelatory Why I Am Not a Muslim, said in response to recent events:

It is perverse for the western media to lament the lack of an Islamic reformation and willfully ignore works such as Wilders' film, Fitna. How do they think reformation will come about if not with criticism? There is no such right as 'the right not to be offended; indeed, I am deeply offended by the contents of the Koran, with its overt hatred of Christians, Jews, apostates, non-believers, homosexuals but cannot demand its suppression.

It is time we recognized that those who claim the "right not to be offended" have also announced their hatred of civil society.

 

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佛陀以肉眼、天眼、慧眼、法眼與佛眼,來讓須菩提(或我們)明白,無量無數的佛世界,有如恆河中所有的沙,而這之中所有眾生『若干種心,如來悉知!』,因為『如來說諸心皆為非心,是名為心。』

量子奇境描述的,正是這樣的狀態…

多年前,物理學兼科普與科幻專家葉李華博士推薦我認識【愛麗絲漫遊量子奇境】譯者葉偉文先生,贈送這本奇書,想知道以我接觸佛教這麼多年,是否能看出其中關連,因為據說「量子態跟修行人禪定中看見的景象,非常接近…」當時,僅能表示在這漫長的佛道旅程裡,知道得越多越困惑,恐怕很難具體提供感想,何況,自己沒有實修經驗,便更沒資格置喙了。

終於下定決心,品嘗一下箇中滋味;進了關房,一讀再讀金剛經,再把【愛麗絲漫遊量子奇境】搬出來對照,真讓人拍案驚奇,哈哈!就這麼簡單啊!我怎會想了這許久?當下羨慕起科學家來,不用經過信仰的折騰,便能直接用儀器觀測到宇宙的真相… 雖然只是局部,卻也是苦修者必須承受長年累月精神與肉體的折磨,才幾乎有可能窺視到的『幻覺』而已。

最大的不同之處,科學家是觀察者,而修行人,是參與者...

佛說:『若以色見我,以音聲求我;是人行邪道,不能見如來。』

就像量子力學的科學家說的:放下成見,才能接受『真相』!若非如此,量子力學所觀測到的景象,就全都是捏造的幻覺,而非實際觀察到的真實狀態。你只能接受,不能用原有的侷限法則,去『解釋』甚至『描述』量子的活動情形。只有全然接受後,科學家才能痛快地善用這觀測的結果,而將之運用到許多實際的事物上,標準的,以幻為實,卻又破實為幻。正如修行者以『幻身』從事許多『善業』而『不能』受功德的方式,異曲同工。

事實上,在量子力學的世界裡,超越時間與空間的『虛』粒子,扮演著非常決定性的關鍵角色…

佛說:『一切有為法,如夢幻泡影;如露亦如電,應作如是觀。』

如果光速運動讓時間凍結,那麼超越光速的速度,你能想像嗎?

虛光子或虛粒子在古典科學界無法接受的真相裡,被量子力學運用到極致,由量子起伏中,取得借貸卻不需償還的無窮盡能量。量子理論之一:隨生隨滅的虛粒子,讓其他真實的粒子產生交互作用,其總能量是無中生有的量子起伏。真空,並非完全沒有東西,卻是這種剎那生滅的短命粒子,任意作為的汪洋大海。『虛粒子雖不持有能量,卻能充分享受能量的好處。』

老子說:『道沖,而用之或不盈,淵兮似萬物之宗… 虛而不屈,動而愈出… 致虛極,守靜篤,萬物並作,吾以觀其復… 絕聖棄智、絕仁棄義、絕巧棄利… 絕學無憂… 如嬰兒之未孩… 道之為物,為恍為惚;恍兮惚兮,其中有象;恍兮惚兮,其中有物…』

老子這些不著邊際的字眼,拿來詮釋量子態,妙不可言。這可是禪定中不可或缺的過程,以虛為實的運用,老子是開先鋒者。

金剛經以及後來越加鉅細靡遺地發揚光大的龍樹菩薩中觀論述,無非都在說明『空性』所能涵蓋的無窮盡,遠非我們所能想像地『具體』。我們唯一能做的,只有放下,不斷地放下,直到淨空成見,這些宇宙本有的存在,就在每個人的身心靈裡,不用找,會自動浮現。看不見,是因為我們用厚實堆壘的『學』與『見』給緊緊地塞進去了,根本出不來。就像塞滿電子的絕緣體,不導電,因為沒有多餘的電『洞』,可供移動。並非你一無所有,而是擁有太多,太多了,多到堵死了。

虛粒子藉著能量起伏,『借』到能量,極短暫地存活,而發揮作用力。正因為時間非常短,短到幾乎無法測量,才可以違反能量守恆定律,時間越短,變化越大,而憑空取得能量,完全破壞既有的定律,穿透任何本來認定『不可能』的壁壘。這種能量的起伏,是真正的物理現象。

譬如,若要前往一個目的地,可能有好幾個選項,以肉眼認知,我們一次只能做一個選擇,而在量子世界裡,卻可以同時穿越所有的路徑,不必做出選擇。選擇,可以抵達目的地,而不選擇,卻讓你立即夢想成真。

然而,最讓我驚訝的,卻是在量子世界裡,所有的粒子,因『觀測』而存在,若失去觀測的焦點,便立即消失,甚至,超越時間與空間的概念,任意往返穿梭。這跟止觀禪定的進行式,實在太像了。難怪佛陀要說諸相非相,若非如此,該如何去形容,恐怕連踏出真正的一步,都困難呢!就連發現量子活動狀態的科學家都說:『沒有人真正完全了解量子力學』!正因為諸相非相,才能放手暢遊啊!

在量子奇境,有一間『臆想室』,讓想像的事件會具體呈現出來,供人觀測… 這對禪修的初學者來說,非常有幫助。通常,要觀想一件子虛烏有的東西,只有未受汙染的聰慧孩童做得到,對於欲望無窮的成年人來說,所欲之事物越多,越難達成目標。而量子奇境,卻完全沒有這種限制,搞密宗的人,一定會愛死這種情境。

「… 消失的量子態,就像夢或幻想,而被觀測的量子態,就是真實量子態… 你永遠不可能實際觀測任何事情,更正確地說,也永遠不會有觀測不到的事情。」金剛經說:『非法,非非法。』原來說的是真實情境呢!量子態的樣子,依據觀測而改變… 對某項觀測是定態,則對另一項觀測不再是定態… 對粒子的位置有定值,則其動量,就會得到任意值… 這種不確定,才使得某些物理效應能夠發生…

也就是說,若執實,便失去一切,若放下,則擁有無窮盡…

量子奇境的主要規則之一:『沒有禁止的事都必須去做』!所有的可能都會同時出現,並互相影響,而且樣樣如實。自然界是不確定的,任何事都可能發生… 每個電子都同時在所有的量子態…

量子態也有戒律:『你能做的事情,是由你不能做的事來決定的。』哈哈!跟佛教所有的戒律總原理,簡直像是同出一源。實粒子的守則是:『沒有禁止的事,都必須去做。』但虛粒子的規則,卻是:『禁止的事,最好趕快完成。』說的恰恰是禪定中的法則。

在真空狀態下,科學家觀測到的能量起伏,有如一鍋無中生有,充滿粒子與反粒子的熱湯,熱鬧地生生滅滅,彼此互生互滅… 對於禪修者來說,這無異是遊走虛實之間的具體證據。

直徑只有原子十萬分之一的原子核,其自洽場(self-consistent field)效應,就跟拙火瑜珈描述的氣脈明點非常近似,禪修證悟者的虹光身,如同核爆,瞬間化光散逸。就連原子核裡α 粒子嘗試脫逃的可能性描述:『可能需要數千年,也可能下一刻就成功了…』都像是漸悟與頓悟的狀況呢!

而非常罕見又無法預測,卻能任意誘發引爆核變的宇宙線(cosmic ray),是否正是我們期待的『加持力』呢?因為只要宇宙線一出現,就會立即造成全然的毀滅,號稱禪修的我們,是否已經準備好要自我毀滅或殲滅自我的執實,達到真正的解脫?

這一套修行方法,最適合想要自殺的人。既然都不想活了,出離心定然比出家人還強烈,苦修的動力更強,再要加上藏傳佛教修行者最需要的『激情』,情緒性崩潰自殺欲望熾盛的人,修練拙火瑜珈,理論上,比誰都更快證悟解脫… 最棒的,是練這套功法,不需要信仰,更沒有偶像崇拜的困擾。這一點,金剛經說得再清楚明白不過了。

葉偉文送我的這本書中有句話非常絕妙:「事實上,每個人都熱中於問題的討論,而沒有人去打開箱子…」好熟悉啊!討論佛學二十多年,從來迴避實修的我,該去哪兒借膽子,打開箱子?

三月三十日時報頭條新聞:
座落在日內瓦郊區的「大強子對撞機」(Large Hadron Collider,簡稱LHC),是科學家花了十
四年,耗資八十億美元建造的。這部巨型粒子加速器訂五月完工啟用,科學家希望利用它進行質子對撞實驗,製造出宇宙「大霹靂」(Big Bang)那一瞬間的狀況,從而解開宇宙誕生的奧秘。 這種對撞機,地球上現在有三個,一次比一次先進,目前這座由兩千名科學家製造的是用接近光速的質子光束對撞,就算這次不成功,照這樣下去,遲早會有一次,炸掉地球...


[引用] | 作者 amitaba | 16th Nov 2008 | [舉報垃圾留言]

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Kowloon 王子 !

Learn Buddhism and do not waste any more gas with those stupid and ignorance Christian barbarians !

Is yourself creat the concept of I
and this whole universe in your deepest subconsious MIND ! and Is yoursself creat your own destiny !

Not any GOD creat !!!!

Everything inculde you and me in this universe (4 dimensional virtual reality ) are projection of our MIND !

amitaba 敬上


[引用] | 作者 amitaba | 17th Nov 2008 | [舉報垃圾留言]

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看看荷兰人是怎么对带外国人的!
荷兰人是畜生。
畜生说不出人话,
只会嗷嗷嗷的猪叫。


[引用] | 作者 j | 28th Dec 2008 | [舉報垃圾留言]